Thursday, September 27, 2007

Doctor Appointment, Concerns

    We saw the pediatrician yesterday. In summary:

  • M&M has flat feet. We're going to get her some shoes with better arch support, and hopefully that will help her leg pain.


  • She got 3 shots and didn't even cry--what a brave girl!


  • The doctor looked at the girls' "spots" and diagnosed them as probable flea bites. He said that, especially in households that don't have pets, it's easy to pick one up outside and then it will gravitate to the "sweetest" body in the house and go to town biting it up. The bites didn't cause the kids much discomfort and are rapidly healing.


  • Dr. B also recommended that we give the girls a calcium supplement and take them off dairy products for a while to see if that helps with the stomach pain and soft stools. We have tried this in the past and weren't sure how much (or if) it helped, but Dr. B said we probably didn't try it long enough. He said that with dairy we really need to have them completely off it for at least 6 weeks to be able to tell whether there's a real difference or not. So we're going to try that.


  • Dr. B did feel that the level of AJs meltdowns and other behavior was something that requires some kind of professional help/evaluation/intervention/whatever. We've found a lovely Christian psychologist/counselor who does play therapy and teaches the parents how to do it with the kids. Hopefully that will help.


What's been going on with AJ is something I haven't really blogged. I've tried many times, but I always end up writing and rewriting the post and then just deleting it or leaving it in draft form, unposted. I finally spent several days on this version and then had DH check it before posting. It's sometimes hard to figure out exactly how (or whether) to post about things like this.

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Some of it is behavior we've seen at varying levels since AJ was very small, and some of it is either new or a significant escalation from before. Her meltdowns are rather extreme, frequent and long-lasting for her age. The triggers are almost always seemingly minor, often the same issue repeated for weeks or months at a time.

In the past it's been things like extreme anxiety over using the bathroom--being afraid of the toilet flushing, worry about feeling the need to go, anxiety about having an accident (even though we've always been very low-key and reassuring about such things) to the point that she was awake crying about it until as late as 1 or 2 a.m. every night for weeks.

Sometimes it's something like our making a transition from one place or activity to another too quickly, or AJ getting upset at the way M&M colors. (AJ is extremely disturbed, for example, that M&M doesn't put feet on her people and often colors things a different color than they are in real life--to the point that she has had extended periods of lying awake at night worrying about it or even hiding under the furniture crying about it.)

She'll cry and scream inconsolably for 30 minutes at a time day after day because she thinks M&M is swinging higher than her on the swingset, but she can bump her head hard enough to raise an immediate lump and hardly blink. (I used to call her my "rubber baby" because she'd just bounce off the furniture unfazed, or even laugh when she got hurt.)

Sometimes she has 5 or 10 meltdowns a day, and other times she can go several days with only a few minor kerfuffles. When she was a toddler her episodes were so intense that she would literally pass out cold, or look like she was having a seizure (the EEG was normal and the doctor said they were just "fits").

We're still at this time trying to figure out what's normal and what's not, and what to just take in stride vs. what to actually be concerned about. We've gone back and forth on this, wondering where exactly the line should be drawn. We don't want to overreact or to brush off something significant, but it's just fuzzy enough that we're never sure.

There have always been things about her that have made us go, "Hmmm, that's odd . . . I wonder . . . ?" Some of it really seems to come and go, or will be really noticeable for a while and then will seem to get better.

There are things like the meltdowns, and then the other things like the extreme anxiety/worry, the constant interest in lining up and sorting things, the insistence on things being just-so, the slight deficiency in social skills, the slower development of skills like smiling and interacting as an infant, the somewhat unusual pattern of learning to talk and then the regression in speech and other skills around a year old, etc.

But she is so good with language and so many other things that we always end up shrugging our shoulders and saying, "No . . . there couldn't be anything wrong. Of course not. How silly to worry."

Her doctors, when we've asked about various concerns through the years, have always said things like, "But look how well she's interacting with me right now . . . it's nothing to worry about/she'll grow out of it/she'll catch up."

Often she interacts quite normally, but other times (especially in certain situations) she'll struggle quite a bit in social interactions, or exhibit a lack of eye contact, facial expression and responsiveness startling and persistent enough that family, friends, acquaintances and a Sunday School teacher have mentioned it. We even had her hearing checked 6 months or a year ago because she so frequently seems lost in her own world and doesn't seem to hear when we try to get her attention.

She is talented in so many areas--reading, math, music, logic (although sarcasm is completely lost on her :) ), general intelligence. She's an extremely bright child. She reads ravenously and talks like a book. She ruminates deeply and talks about things that many kids her age wouldn't even think to be interested in. She cares deeply about other people and loves to help. Even when she seems to not care about interacting, she may be very upset for days after a gathering because the other kids didn't play with her (even if she didn't ask them to play or try to join in their play).

An escalation of her behavior and some new things she started saying a few weeks ago finally bumped us into "This is not normal . . . something is wrong here" mode. The pediatricians and counselors we've talked to are saying that her meltdowns and the things she's doing and saying are not typical 6-year-old behavior and should be looked at further, so that's what we're doing right now.

We are seeing a possible link between her worst periods and her consumption of dairy products and/or artificial colors and flavors, so the 6 weeks off dairy should be helpful in discovering whether that's a factor or not. It also seems to be worse when her blood sugar gets low.

We know that Baby E's interactions, behavior and sensory processing abilities are hugely impacted by what she eats. Since AJ's worst periods seem to happen after social gatherings and when she is eating more dairy and junk food, we're hoping that the no-milk trial will help. We tried taking her off dairy a couple of years ago when she was having horrible anxiety and anger issues right after Baby E was born. It did seem to help when we tried it briefly, but we weren't sure and didn't see a clear difference with minimal exposures, so we gradually added moderate amounts back in (although we still didn't use it nearly as much as we used to).

It's rather difficult to know what to say about it at this point, at least until we get a better idea of what's going on. We don't know whether it's primarily an organic/neurological issue; her response (as Dr. B thinks likely) to the stress and unpredictability of the last couple of years with health issues, etc. disrupting our family life; just something that goes along with being an extremely bright child with a perfectionist/anxiety-prone/analytical personality; or what. We're certainly trying lots of different things and praying about it a lot.

Suffice it to say that if we can get some help figuring out how to get a handle on this and some good tools for helping her cope better, things will be a lot less stressful and more enjoyable for everyone in the house.

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10 Comments:

Blogger Heather said...

Barring the extreme family health issues (though you could substitute marital dysfunction and job transition for it in our lives and get the same complicating factor), so much of what you've written - from the "symptoms" to the concerns of others, to the uncertainties that her otherwise bright and capable self have pointed you toward - are what we've gone through with LMNOB.

Our dx of Sensory Processing Disorder has proven to be spot on for LMNOB - and our lives (wrt the meltdowns) have improved dramatically. Granted they haven't been "cured," but what a difference. I have been toying around wiht the idea of adding a psych. therapist to the mix for her to help her understand what the dx means - in addition to the play OT therapy she's doing.

(hugs) I know it is hard and so very confusing. I can only imagine how hard this must be when you're already so involved with Baby E's issues.

6:16 AM  
Blogger Phantom Scribbler said...

Ah, that's really tough, PK. I hope that you find some interventions that work for you as a family, and help AJ feel more comfortable in her own skin. And I hope you're getting processing time for yourself -- it's so draining, juggling all these needs!

Thinking of you.

7:52 AM  
Blogger Heather said...

You know when you posted this I actually thought of Hamiam's LMNOB... except for the dietary issues.

In any event.. I hope and pray for your solutions to come quickly for both your family and AJ's sake *HUGS* and praying!

8:32 AM  
Blogger Amy said...

((Hugs)) right back to you!

I hope that you are able to find some answers and some long-term solutions. I'll be praying that you all can enjoy some nice boring stability for a while!

9:24 AM  
Blogger purple_kangaroo said...

You know, HAM and Heather, I think we are ALL probably on the borderline unusual end of the spectrum when it comes to sensory processing.

DH and AJ both seem to be mostly sensory-seeking, while M&M fluctuates between the two, and myself and Baby E (but only when she's not feeling well) seem to be more sensory-avoidant.

It drives me a bit crazy being married to someone with a seemingly bottomless intense need for deep, concentrated touch (not just BDing) and having kids who want to constantly sit on/climb on/wrestle with me when I largely just don't like to be touched much!! LOL.

Phantom, thanks. I am trying to make time for processing (or at least to have a few minutes' break from the chaos occasionally), but sometimes I forget that I need it. Thanks for the reminder. :)

Thanks, Amy . . . I'd love some nice, boring stability.

10:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

b(o)

11:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PK, Wishing you luck with this new challenge. Wanted to offer a few tidbits to possibly help aid your detective work. A little of what you wrote sounds a lot like my nephew, who has mild Aspberger's, although I don't know tons about it. The second thing is that T has had the same extreme fears/sensory issues and extreme reactions to things since she was a toddler and could express herself. I tried everything. Counseling actually made it worse. This summer, we worked with hypnotist and most of the emotional issues and fears went away within a few weeks. Even my hub, who was a little skeptical about the whole thing, could not believe it. If you want more details about the process, feel free to email me.
In the meantime, good luck with everything.

1:57 PM  
Blogger Liz Miller said...

Hugs and many supportive thoughts to you and your family.

7:32 PM  
Blogger Bryan said...

PK, I'm returning to the blog world, and saw your reference to this post on PS's blog. (I have the Mother of All Wednesday Whines, but wouldn't you know, she's not doing it any more.)

It sounds like you've entered the world of alphabet soup. Whether it's some kind of processing disorder, sensory integration, Asperger's, ADD, PDD, autism spectrum. . .most of the advice you are going to get is going to be along the lines of figuring out how to help her adapt to the world & its realities. We've been to 5 different doctors/practices and have received as many different diagnoses.

The following advice is worth perhaps less than you are paying for it, but is well meant, and from a mom who has been on this journey for 4 years. Don't sweat the particular initials you're given. You'll just get new ones next visit, as they figure out different things. Just as you had to do with Baby E's allergies (and I need to catch up on that), this will be trial and error of what works and what doesn't work, and then it will all change.

Some red flags that reminded me of my daughter did jump out, but all Aspie traits are present in 'neurotypical' kids. The Aspie's just tend to have an extra helping. You've been a great mom so far, no need to let any of this change you.

5:40 PM  
Blogger Butterfly 8)(8 Bungalow said...

I am a new reader to your blog. I hope the counseling goes well for AJ.

I think you already have a lot to start with. Like previous readers, the issues do sound a bit like Sensory Processing Disorder or a little Aspie. Yet, to me she seems gifted, perhaps on the highly gifted spectrum. A child can be both gifted with an exceptionality ( like Aspie, SPD, etcetera), and they call this twice exceptional.

I hope I am not repeating what you already know. There can be a lot of overlap of issues especially among highly gifted (HG, EG, PG). I recommend the books Losing Our Minds by Deborah Ruf and Misdiagnosis and Dual Diagnosis of Gifted Children.

We went the IQ testing and then the therapy route. Our child is EXPRO, exceptionally or profoundly gifted. She had therapy for Sensory Processing Disorder, a peculiar visual issue than did not impact reading but other aspects of vision pointed out during IQ testing, and fine and gross motor delays. Yet, in her lowest subject, if one could say that, she is working at 6th grade and we just celebrated her 7 birthday.

The playground or get togethers can be overwhelming if a child has sensory processing issues, Aspie traits, or is highly gifted or has some of these issues together. We have also experienced the long memory for a hurt and that can make it difficult. I find that my daughter’s social skills are advanced or on level depending on the situation, but she needs coaching and discussion about relationships at home.

Best Wishes.

11:49 AM  

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