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Hello! I was just reading on your website that the OU sometimes certifies chometz-free corn syrup to be used in the manufacture of substances such as Kosher for Passover citric acid and xanthan gum.
I was wondering if the Kosher for Passover products such as candies which use the citric acid and xanthan gum grown on the chometz-free corn syrup would then be labeled OU-P or OU chometz-free?
The reason I ask is that my daughter has severe corn allergies. She reacts to even highly refined products such as citric acid and xanthan gum that are cultured on any kind of corn derivative. Even citric acid cultured on chometz-free corn syrup would be a problem for her.
Thank you very much,
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We are very sorry, but yes, it would be labeled as OU-P (Kosher for Passover).
"This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the LORD -a lasting ordinance. For seven days you are to eat bread made without yeast. On the first day remove the yeast from your houses, for whoever eats anything with yeast in it from the first day through the seventh must be cut off from Israel. On the first day hold a sacred assembly, and another one on the seventh day. Do no work at all on these days, except to prepare food for everyone to eat—that is all you may do.
"Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread, because it was on this very day that I brought your divisions out of Egypt. Celebrate this day as a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. In the first month you are to eat bread made without yeast, from the evening of the fourteenth day until the evening of the twenty-first day. For seven days no yeast is to be found in your houses. And whoever eats anything with yeast in it must be cut off from the community of Israel, whether he is an alien or native-born. Eat nothing made with yeast. Wherever you live, you must eat unleavened bread."
Then Moses summoned all the elders of Israel and said to them, "Go at once and select the animals for your families and slaughter the Passover lamb. Take a bunch of hyssop, dip it into the blood in the basin and put some of the blood on the top and on both sides of the doorframe. Not one of you shall go out the door of his house until morning. When the LORD goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe and will pass over that doorway, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down.
"Obey these instructions as a lasting ordinance for you and your descendants. When you enter the land that the LORD will give you as he promised, observe this ceremony. And when your children ask you, 'What does this ceremony mean to you?' then tell them, 'It is the Passover sacrifice to the LORD, who passed over the houses of the Israelites in Egypt and spared our homes when he struck down the Egyptians.' " Then the people bowed down and worshiped. The Israelites did just what the LORD commanded Moses and Aaron. "
"Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth.
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"Another important issue regarding Passover is corn syrups. While corn syrups are from the legume family and accordingly by definition should not be acceptable for Passover, the OU does accept legume derivatives in the fermentation industry due to the extreme changes that happen during the fermentation, with the result that at the end of fermentation, the contents have completely changed. This only applies to legume derivatives, as the stricter nature of the prohibition on the “five grains” does not allow for similar acceptance.
The most common Passover applications for corn syrups are in fermentation products such as citric acid, microbial rennet, and MSG, among others. These corn syrups will be certified chametz-free, meaning that all ingredients, specifically the enzymes used in corn syrup manufacture, besides having the regular kosher requirements, are also kosher controlled to ensure that no derivatives of the five aforementioned grains are used."
"The Orthodox Union certifies certain industrial products as “chometz-free.” This means that kitniyos (legumes) may be used as a raw material, although normally they are not used during Passover. These chometz-free certified products must meet very stringent criteria to convert the legumes or their derivatives from proscribed substances to acceptable ones. These changes include a complete chemical transformation from a sweet to sour taste. Chometzfree certification is granted only if there are no actual chometz-derived ingredients—namely no derivatives of wheat, rye, oats, barley or spelt—in the product."It sounds to me like Chometz-free corn syrup can be used to grow some items used in OU-P products:
". . . In order to maintain chometz-free certification on a product such as corn syrup, quality assurance personnel must constantly check that the right enzymes are received. Corn syrup/dextrose is then used to produce kosher for Passover citric acid, xantham gum, microbial rennet, etc."
"Now, xanthan gum bears absolutely no resemblance to corn syrup – it doesn’t taste like corn syrup or behave like corn syrup, and there is no plausible way that one could call it corn syrup. Is it, halachically, corn syrup? This question is relevant to Pesach, where Ashkenazim have a minhag to refrain from eating kitniyos including corn and many also refrain from eating corn-derivatives. . . .
Nevertheless there are Poskim who hold that as relates to Pesach, it is permissible to accept – and even certify – a kitniyos-based ingredient, like corn syrup, that was radically changed. Ashekanazim who refrain from eating kitniyos on Pesach do so merely because of a minhag, and these Poskim hold that as relates to a minhag one may even l’chatchilah accept such products as kosher (for Pesach). One famous example where this comes up is in Pesachdik diet soda. One sweetener used in diet soda is aspartame, which at least at some stages is made though the fermentation process, and most of the Pesachidk aspartame is made using corn syrup, based on the aforementioned line of reasoning.
Other Poskim hold that an ingredient can only properly be called nishtaneh if, before it was changed, the ingredient went through a stage where it was inedible—which is apparently true for musk. Since standard fermentation processes do not render the ingredient inedible, even a very dramatic change would not qualify as nishtaneh. Even this position would permit Pesachdik diet soda, b’dieved, because the kitniyos in such a context would be buttel. "
"In recent decades, scientists have learnt to manipulate microorganisms to create and convert all types of enzymes and foods. This has had dramatic effects on the world of kashrus, including kitnios. What happens if one takes bland-tasting corn, and uses enzymes to liquefy and sweeten it – does the resulting corn syrup remain forbidden as kitnios? Is the halacha possibly more lenient if one takes the aforementioned corn syrup and uses enzymes to convert it to sour-tasting ascorbic acid?
These questions depend on a machlokes Rishonim cited in Mishnah Berurah 216:7 regarding the kashrus of musk – a fragrant byproduct of blood which is found in the abdominal gland of the male musk deer. Some Rishonim hold that since blood is non-kosher, musk is also forbidden, but others holds that once the blood is nishtaneh – changed – it loses its original identity and becomes an innocuous kosher liquid. Mishnah Berurah rules that as relates to issurim d’rabannan one may be lenient.
Accordingly, some hashgochos hold that since kitnios is merely a minhag (i.e. even less than an issur d’rabannan) one can be lenient and certify kitnios which was truly nishtaneh. In order to qualify as “nishtaneh” the kitnios must go through a significant change in taste; therefore in the cases noted above, they would certify the ascorbic acid due to the dramatic change in taste from sweet to sour but wouldn’t permit the corn syrup since it isn’t changed/nishtaneh “enough” from the corn which it came from. This rationale is the basis for some hashgachos’ certification and/or acceptance of certain productions of MSG, aspartame and xanthan gum for Pesach. Some argue that Mishnah Berurah’s ruling is limited to cases of b’dieved and doesn’t justify the l’chatchilah creation/certification of such an item, and others argue that nishtaneh may be limited to cases where the forbidden item becomes inedible in the middle of its conversion to the “new” item. We will see below that even those who take the strict position in this matter generally agree that foods created with these ingredients are b’dieved permitted on Pesach."
"Another ingredient we would like to discuss is Citric Acid. This is produced by fermenting crude sugars with Aspergillus Niger.Group 1 means the item is considered "intrinsically Kosher" and does not need special certification to be used. It sounds to me like they're saying most organizations have in the past and probably still do certify foods containing citric acid grown on corn as Kosher for Passover.
The above mentioned carbohydrates can be of wheat, corn or regular sugar source. If it comes from wheat of [sic] corn it would be problematic for Passover.
As Citric Acid is quite popular in the food industry - tens of thousands of tons are used annually - a source that would be Kosher for Passover is quite in demand.
For years the Rabbis have been lenient with the use of Citric Acid produced from corn. The severity of corn usage on Passover is much less than wheat usage which is strictly forbidden - even in the minutest amount - on Passover.
Since the Citric Acid is the result of a chemical changeover from the original corn some prominent Rabbis permitted its use on Passover. However, the trend recently has been to observe more stringently to the letter of the law so a demand has arisen for a 100% Kosher for Passover Citric Acid produced from sugar.
As a side note, alcohol fermented from corn is not accepted as a Kosher for Passover ingredient, as is Citric Acid, even though the chemical changeover is identical.
We, at the OK, have been successful, thank G-d, in helping make available a 100% Kosher for Passover Citric Acid from sugar. This comes from Sucromilles in Cali, Colombia (a Haarmann & Reimer affiliate) and is marketed by Haarmann & Reimer in the U.S.A.
. . . A bright point in Group 1 development is the removal of Citric Acid from Group 1 by one major Kashrus organization. We hope all other groups will move in their direction. "
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[Note: this was originally part of the post titled Allergy: I do not think that word means what you think it means. I've moved it into a separate section to make the original post more manageable.]
"True" IgE-regulated allergies are often thought to be more important and more deserving of attention and research than non-IgE regulated adverse reactions. I think the current approach is a bit unbalanced, and here's why:
It's often said that intolerances are usually milder than allergies, and that allergies can occur to trace amounts of foods while intolerances are usually dose-related. But that's not necessarily true.
For instance, gluten intolerance can be triggered by extremely trace amounts of gluten, such as cross-contamination from foods processed on the same equipment as items containing gluten. Corn intolerance is another "non-allergy" in which it seems particularly common for trace amounts of highly refined corn derivatives to cause severe reactions even in people who test negative for corn allergy. That's certainly the case with Baby E and many others on The Avoiding Corn Forum.
There's a misconception that intolerances only cause minor symptoms such as indigestion. But non-IgE food reactions can have all the same symptoms as an allergy, or others just as uncomfortable.
The consequences of an IgE-regulated allergy can range from mildly annoying symptoms such as an itchy mouth, mild rash or runny nose to a severe, multi-systemic debilitating or even life-threatening reaction. Likewise, non-IgE reactions can range from mild to severe. A person may just get a stomach ache when they eat too much of a certain food (as is the case with many intolerances), or they may experience symptoms such as severe vomiting/cramping/diarrhea, internal bleeding, itching, rashes, headaches, difficulty breathing, changes in heartrate or blood pressure, malabsorption, failure to thrive, or even anaphylactoid reactions.
A truly life-threatening adverse food reaction is rare with both an allergy and an intolerance. An intolerance may be less likely to kill you, but a fatal anaphylactoid reaction will kill you just as dead as fatal anaphlyaxis will. Untreated autoimmune or metabolic food intolerances can certainly be fatal.
Intolerances may be mild more often than allergies, but a moderate to severe intolerance can make life just as difficult and uncomfortable as a moderate to severe allergy can. A severe intolerance can be more debilitating and difficult to manage than a mild allergy. Intolerances can be especially difficult to manage since some of the most common intolerance triggers, such as corn and MSG, are less well-regulated and labeled than the top 8 allergens are.
A lot of people get up in arms about people lumping together food allergies and other adverse food reactions. How dare anyone think an intolerance could be in the same class as a REAL allergy? It's touted frequently that, while maybe 15-30% or more of people experience some sort of food intolerance, only a very small percent (somewhere between 1% and 8%, depending on the reporting source and the age range) have "true food allergies." Food labeling laws and other policies are largely based only on the IgE-regulated reactions.
Intolerances are harder to study than allergies, but they affect far more people than allergies do, and their consequences can be severe.
Things like research, accurate labeling, education, and effective treatments are important for all types of adverse food reactions. For both allergies and intolerances, the primary treament is to avoid the foods triggering the symptoms. Pinpointing the trigger foods and being able to avoid them is equally important for managing moderate to severe reactions, whether technically they are allergies or not.
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When it comes to abnormal or unusual adverse reactions to food, most resources divide them into two categories: allergy and intolerance. There are also adverse reactions related to an element of the food itself, which may not really fit into either category. Some types of food poisoning, for example, have allergy-like symptoms.
Differentiating between different types of adverse food reactions can be complicated.
The most commonly-known group of food intolerances is the type which involves difficulty or inability to break down certain food elements. Often this is because of an inherited missing enzyme. Lactose intolerance is probably the mildest and most common form of this. Other metabolic disorders that cause food intolerances can be much more serious and difficult to manage, such as Congenital Sucrase-Isomaltase Deficiency (CSID) and Phenylketonuria (PKU).
Many resources simplify allergy vs. non-allergy by saying that an allergy involves the immune system, while an intolerance does not. But I'm learning that this is not necessarily true. Some conditions, such as celiac disease, are triggered by food and involve an abnormal immune response, but are not allergies. There are also conditions such as eosinophilic disorders which damage cells or trigger production of abnormal cells by a person's body. These can be triggered by specific foods, but allergies may or may not be detectable.
I've often thought of allergy vs. non-allergy relating to whether the reaction involves histamine release or not. After all, allergy medications are antihistamines, right? An allergic reaction must be any adverse reaction that involves histamine, I thought.
Not so. There are actually a number of adverse food reactions that look and act like allergies, and involve histamine, but aren't actually allergies. Some of these, like scromboid fish poisoning or histamine intolerance, are from ingesting histamine in food rather than producing it in the body. Others, like mastocytosis or direct histamine liberation, may involve the overproduction of mast cells or the release of histamine within the body caused by something other than an allergic reaction.
Even the presence or absence of particular symptoms can't firmly differentiate between allergic and non-allergic reactions. Typical allergy symptoms such as hives, asthma, itching, swelling, changes in blood pressure, vomiting and diarrhea can all be caused by other triggers.
One might think that, at least, symptoms of anaphylaxis from consuming a food would be a clear indicator of allergy. I would have thought that if a person had negative allergy tests but got hives, wheezing, itching, and a life-threatening drop in blood pressure or difficulty breathing on food challenge, that would be considered proof that the test was wrong. Some allergists consider an anaphylactic-type reaction to be final proof of an allergy, but others may not.
I've recently learned that there's actually something called an anaphylactoid or pseudo-allergic reaction. It looks and acts exactly like an anaphylactic reaction. Same symptoms, same treatment. Both are life-threatening. The difference is that anaphylactic reactions include the presence of IgE antibodies, and anaphylactoid reactions don't. Anaphylactoid reactions are most common as reactions to non-food substances such as medications and contrast mediums, but anaphylactoid food reactions have been reported.
The more I learn, the less I'm sure I understand. Perspectives and approaches vary among doctors and researchers, which complicates matters even further.
What seems clear is that both IgE antibodies and a specific set of typical allergy symptoms need to be present for unanimous agreement that an allergy exists. You can read a bit more discussion of that as it relates to Baby E's situation here.
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